Thanks for writing.

Just found your article and will post later.

No not joking. Think about it. How much of the world population would you say has very seriously adopted a philosophicico-political system which is expressly atheistic? 

Theists have to build a complete circular support system to establish the who, what and the why for concerning everything in the world large and small or else the churches would be OOB for sure. But without some orthodoxy or another, the churches would again be OOB. This is where the religion part takes over. It is a self-serving self-supporting methodology that allows for no questions, tolerates no disagreement and supplies all the answers to everything for all time, get real. Even when we are all flying around in little space ships … even then???

Play all the word games you like, but if you snatch the NT out of our history ... which god would you be prostrating to since it is this NT man-god you cherish now? Is it even possible that any god could only be found in a man-made-book such that he would evaporate without it? This surely shouldn’t be a difficult concept for you as you have no problem trying to discredit every science book in the world with a wave of your belief. Anyway it was your choice to represent the bible as the literal words of this god of yours so yes, discrediting the founding and only document upon which your 'everything' is based ... would easily discredit the infallibility of your chosen god-view as well as the anonymous and bigoted people who wrote this 'stuff' in 'the beginning'.

So it seems that only a catholic is entitled to a dogmatic view or is allowed to have faith in their beliefs … what a small world you live in. I can see you are not going to just become forthcoming with an honest reply so I will answer this meaningless question for you and the captain without your silly wording. From the catholic perspective anyway, every bit of well everything, that doesn’t somehow COMPLETELY capitulate to your dogma is atheistic regardless of the level of disagreement. Your church is totally responsible for this christian ‘fight with the rest of humanity’ simply because of the disdain you express at every opportunity for anyone who dares to think for themselves or to believe in a different way. Dogmatism in theory is acceptable but when put into practice, it IS the very nature of 'bigotry at its prime' be it theological or otherwise … and you too are at your prime.

Absolutely nothing about God would change if there were never a NT or an OT for that matter. The Bible is a gift of God. 

There is but One true God. The God of the OT is the same God in the NT. God is Eternal..He is always was and always will be.

We read in the OT that God promised Adam and Eve that He would send a Redeemer to redeem us of our sins and open the gates of Heaven.  That Redeemer was Himself...God made man in the Person of Jesus Christ. He is the substance of all the types and shadows prefigured in the OT law and prophecies. 

Jesus Christ is true God. That as God He existed from all eternity; that as man He was born in time, the Son of Mary, in human nature, like man in all things save sin. 

This is such a no-brainer but theologically I guess everything is just another argument. Just think of all the things that have to be all screwed up for monotheism to become acceptable: All the sciences are pseudo, all our history is meaningless, the complete fossil record is a deceptive ploy, medicine as we know it today is just wrong, all our astronomical findings are wistful, our bogus biology expertise, geology in its entirety, archeology as nothing but speculation, paleontology is just guess work, physics as whimsically alterable, chemistry as some art and the list just continues almost endesly. All of this and so much more just to try and justify god, amazing that. It is so difficult to talk to Christians in particular because there are just too damn many different kinds with too many different beliefs let alone allowing any consideration for other faiths and beliefs??? How pompous can a human become presenting their case based solely on bad evidence just never ceases to amaze me?

Lula, it is really quite simple. Why don't you explain it to me as opposed to just telling me it is so as you normally do, as you did here? Without the NT, I would be interested to hear about what god there could be to supplicate oneself to if it is not YHWY? This is a given without the NT and if we wanted to stick with your original claim that you don’t even need the OT either, then whence did YHWY come let alone Jesus? Why is it so difficult to just say you were wrong or that you misspoke is beyond me to understand? Not sure what this has to do with the 'religion of atheism' though? Seems that you used both the NT and OT (reply #11) anyway ... even though you didn’t have to???

PS – Jythier, your witty wit never ceases to amaze me so pray continue, with no detail or meaning please … as usual. Or is this just another HH moment for you?

First by the term "God" I mean God is a spiritual, substantial, personal Being, infinite in intelligence, in will and in all perfections, immutable, and infinitely superior to all that is or can be conceived apart from Himself. He is incomprehensible in His infinite perfections although knowable as to the fact of His existence as Creator and Lord of Heaven and earth, Almighty, Eternal, and distinct from all He has created. 

The point I was making in my statement is that although Almighty God is not thoroughly comprehensible to us, we can attain a certain degree of knowledge concerning Him if there were never the Holy Bible to tell us of the infinite plenitude of His perfections. That 's why I said the Bible is a gift of God. Got is Eternal, He is, always was and always will be. That's why I said absolutely nothing about God would change if there were never the Bible. God and His Infinite Perfections are not subject to the Bible which was written in time and time began with God's creation. 

God alone is; all else is dependent. 

He is....means He does not become progressing from less to greater perfection. God is Eternal means He never ceases to be what He is or was or always will be, nor does He change. He alone is Infinite, and Eternal Being, Uncaused, yet casuing all else to receive being and such degrees of perfection as He chooses to bestow. 

The finite human mind can affirm the perfections of God without the Bible. 

For example, we can understand that there is an Infinite God without the Bible. Our reason tells us that there is one true God. 

That there is an Almighty God must be clear to every thinking person for the fact is clearly proved by the visible world with its laws and orderliness which testifies to God's Wisdom. So we don't need the Bible to know that nature reveals God to us as the First Cause, the Designer and origin of life. If there were never the Bible, we can conceive the fact that there is a Being (God) not finite as are the things that Being has made. No one can reasonably think that the world made itself, nor the heavenly bodies move through space by their own power. 

We can know that absolutely nothing about God would change if there were never a Holy Bible from the the supernatural light of Faith. 

You seem to forget (or perhaps you never knew) that besides the Bible (Sacred Scripture), there is another Divine source of faith from which we can learn about God called Sacred Tradition. Tradition is a revealed truth not found in Scripture and can be found in ex cathedra documents of the Popes and Councils, in the Creeds, and in the works of the Fathers and Doctors of the Church, (some of whom were contemporaries of the Apostles.). 

My actual experience as an atheist is that other atheists just don’t care to entertain something they don’t believe in. If there is an atheist out there (I’m sure there are) who hates god(s), well they are not really atheists at all then. People who do not believe in the gods develop differing degrees of ‘dislike’ for the practitioners of any religion who day in and day out tries to make others (all) conform to their dogma on so faulty evidence without a lick of proof.  God doesn’t have anything to do with this for an atheist, you do. I know how you feel about other gods, but you don’t have to look any further than the first commandment to understand what your own god thought on the matter: “Thou shalt have no other gods before me”.

Your margin of error is very unrealistic.  It should be a lot closer to 4.54 billion years off.

But we already had that argument.

What exactly am I supposed to be speaking to here?  If the earth is 6000 years old, and the oldest you can go back is 21 centuries before Christianity, then you have only gone back 2100 years... where's the conflict?