People who are suicidal, rather than killing themselves with a sure-fire way, should simply be more riskier in life. That way, either their life will improve as they learn to take the necessary risks, or they die from the risks. Win-win situation.

I have been contemplating suicide for while now. As each day passes I feel I have failed, but tomorrow is another day. I do not want my death to be violent, with other people cleaning up the mess left behind, rather I want it to be quiet and unknown.
My wife of 30 years knows nothing of my desire, I am not a moody person, more outgoing and cheerful, inside of me has had enough. Marilyn, my wife suffers with constant migraines which lasts for three or four days each time, usually every ten days or so. She has never tried to combat the headaches herself, she just goes to bed for the full period and never ever tried to do her daily schedule. She relies on medication which has never worked.
We cannot make any future plans, book a plane,train, or buy any type of ticket before hand, we miss out on trips with friends, dinner parties, you name it, we'll miss it. John

John, I think you should try to convince your wife to try meditation. Im pretty sure that it would help her to some degree. Even though migrains are different compared to headaches, im sure it would still give her some relief. as for what you are contemplating, it is your choice. you are the only person who can ever know your problems, those things that you have to face whenever you wake up. ill just leave you with a question. Would killing yourself really solve your problems? Think this through.

The largest majority of people who commit or attempt suicide are suffering from a serious medical condition called severe clinical depression. My father dies of suicide due to this condition and I inherited it from him.

Yes, I have considered it in the past. I sought medical help instead. Probably because that's what killed my father. I recognized the symptoms in myself which is not always easy to do becasue the illness affects reason and judgement. I was lucky enough to get treatment.

This illness is caused by a chemical imbalance. It's a physical illness. Would you be so judgemental of a person who has diabetes or high blood pressure?

I have seen the results of suicide on the families and friends left behind.

The mother who returned her grandchildren home after a visit ....and they all walked in to find her son and their father ..who had hung himself.

The wife who had an argument with her husband because he had cheated on her and came home to find his head splattered all over the room.

A husband who's wife had gassed herself in the car.

No matter how bad things get ..there is NO JUSTIFICATION ..for putting the people you supposedly love through the anguish and horror and feelings of self loathing these people go through. They spend the rest of their lives hating themselves for failing the person they love.

Maybe people who have attempted suicide should be made to work with people who are suffering a terminal illness ...they might realise how important life and loved ones are.
AND how unimportant the things we stress about and worry about and consider we have failed in, really are.

Jess

When shit hits the fan, I hit back. There's no reason you should just lie down and let life mow you over. Screw that.

-- B

Hello. (Im from finland, so my english aint great)
Sight..
Couple of years now i have been thinking about leaving this world.. wild things came to my mind.. I have been thinking about moving in some monk monastary or so..
heh.. well.. i feel that every other life would be better than mine..
well.. how did i start feel like this.. couple years earlier i had this girl..(yep. always there is a girl)
our relationship was short.. one week.. no more or no less..
he totally dumped me.. yep (like always)
i haven't had any alcoholical problems etc.. just these thoughts..
i have been talking with friends alot.. heck.. i have been talking with different psychiatrist's too..
im taking pills to my depression at this moment..

in these two years i have been scaring about getting any close relationship with some girl's.. well i have been talking with some.. it just frightens me. .
well.. how did i found this place?
i searched google for easy way to kill myself.
sight..
well.. maby i dont like about thought killing myself.. but i would like to go some other place.. like Himalayas.. heh..

well well.. thanks..

sincerely yours.
Me.

I have seen the results of suicide on the families and friends left behind.

gothic impulse: I too have dealt with far too many that I love who have taken this route.

there is NO JUSTIFICATION

We are told early on in life that suicide is NOT an answer, that it is wrong, a sin, a weak way out yadda, yadda. No matter what cliche` you use, the outcome is the same.
Everyone who has ever walked this earth has been given experiences in their lives that caused them to say, I can't take this amymore, no one should have to live like this, but for the most part, they DO get through it. No matter how bad it gets, how much it hurts, how unfair it seems or alone it feels, suicide will NOT make it go away. Realisticly, it gets much worse. For those you have just left behind. Yes we have all heard that before, well heed to it IT DOES!!!!!!

John and Amito: I really do not know how much more I could say that others wiil not have already said or say, but I am here to tell you that there is no way I beleive that either one of you has a reason to believe that ANYONE would be better off without you. That you wouldn't leave a mess behind, or answer you self-worth question(ya know, "failing at everything it seems). I will show you an illustration of the outcome of giving into these feelings.....

I am FAILING at EVERYTHING in my life and have been for several months. A mother of four, on the streets(homeless) for almost 2 months now. I was on treatments which my doctors have recently seazed becouse I am not ressponding to them. I suffer migranes, diabeties, epilepsy, MS and of course my terminal illness. I am a piss poor excuse for a mother, wife and woman at this point. Can not take care of family, home, health or anything. I am a useless shell of a human right now.....Notice I said RIGHT NOW!!!!!! Tommorow will bring another day of either this terrible hell I am living through, or it vwery well may be the day that it all changes.Right now is a temporary moment.
You know, my list could go on, and so could thousands of others but that means nothing, we all are tired. There has to be something strong enough in your will to help you to see that, there is someone sitting next to you, reaching out to you, feeling you, right next to you, and they have it worse than you, yet you need them. They need to be there for you, and they need you to believe that you can make it. Yes, there are mentical conditions that are much of the cause of this type of feeling, I was told way back in the early 70's that I was manic depressive, (long before every tear you shed meant you were so), and yes I played with the idea of vanishing my pain (physically, mentally and emotionally) but I cant. I just can't. Not for myself, or my family or what ever, I just cant. I want to see that I got threw it AGAIN and I want to see how it all turns out!!!!!!!!
Won't the two of you and any other, lean on those who are willing to be there for you and help you through whatever they can. I am certain that you WILL get throught these rough areas and you will be happy to see that the outcome is livable.

Edmund Falgui- Wow your DUMB
Let me just give you a few of my opinions because YOURS SUCK ROYAL ASS!
First things first....I dont understand how your artical got posted I highly doubt it did because you have no idea of what you are talking about.
First things first; What you are doing is aggravating a bunch of people who are mentally, psychologically and emotionally challenged and getting them more angry. By doing this you are causing these normal people (who just have a medical disease nuerologically) (in the brain). Most of these people can't help what they're thinking! THeses guys and gal's need help, some get help by getting med's and some dont have to money to get the med's and this is were the disease get worse and worse. IF a serious depressed teen wore to read your artical you would have been the cause of there death by wishing them to die adn that they are worthless. THEY ALREADY FEEL THAT WAY YOU SHOULD NT BE RUBBING IT IN! An by the way if your artical was published in the Philosophical madness there won't be a philosophical Madness any longer after I read your article. And another thing Im planning to bring you to court! I WISH YOU THE BEST OF LUCK EDMUND FALGUI

Dear boy,

The world, you are protecting so eagerly, is actually, already fucked up.
Just look around.
By calling someone coward, you state that "the strongest should live", which is an animal inerpretation of life,
and this is what fucks up the whole world. This is the nature of the thing in this world.
Did you know that around age of 40 your body turns on a mode called "suicide" - the body starts killing itself?
And no metter what you do, how much time you spend in gym, what you eat and how happy you are - you become old and die.
Because by this age, with this crazy sex drive you had in your teens and twenties you should have already brought your kids up.
There is no need in you anymore, make room for the new generation.
Species survival - eternal game.Everybody has to fight everybody for the room.
We think, we are human differ from animals by our brain capacity, but by behavior we are no different.
We eat each other alive by smart, "human" ways. So who polutes this world? Those who are too hungry for life polute the earth.

So why, boy, do you live? What is your reason for staying alive - who needs it. You? Why?
No, don't think about it and don't look around, you are not smart enough anyway for that.
These thoughts will make you question too much - a pass to a suicide desire for some.

I guess its easy to criticize an action if you have never had the thought actually run through your mind. For me, I have had the thoughts run through my head when I was really depressed, and its like youre a different person completely. Its easy to criticize something you dont completely understand- life is really hard on some people, and for a lot, there doesnt seem to be a REAL answer.

Wow- your initial message, and your almost-apology(??) follow- up are like totally different.

your first one said

For me they are also what i would call a waste of space and air in this earth that already has too many stupid people fucking up my world with pollution and other kinds of shit.

about people who try to kill themselves.

your follow up is about "thinking twice about commiting suicide, because your life might not be so bad"........

for me, this sounds pretty contradictory.... maybe its just me tho.