Deference = Obtuse. Some people just don't have sufficient reading comprehension to have complex debates...or even simple ones it appears.

Well I can't speak for her but it's clear that you can't seem to grasp what I was getting at.

President Bush's quote was pretty straight forward. You just seem to be reading a lot more into it.

But like I said earlier, I don't really care if you or someone else thinks Bush or Martians or whatever were responsible for 9/11, it just means I can essentially discount your opinions on world events.

Nice topic discussion and loads of facts, but badly spoilt with persons abusing each other.

yeah perfectly agreed with deferance, people are very emotionally attached that they end up saying something

yeah perfectly agreed with deferance, people are very emotionally attached that they end up saying something - gimmick blogger

...that I totally missed the point and am randomly trolling.

You piece of shit.

Regards,

Deference

Anyone see South Park tonight?

hilarious! south park was really weak for most of last season but this season has been much funnier every week. i love how far matt and trey will go to make a point. "red hot catholic love" has to be one of my ATF.

I wish I had some crab right now, but it looks like I'll just have to settle for a bunch of bull.

Bush is barely coherent at the best of times. I've always been of the opinion that it's better to suspect stupidity or simple error than conspiracy, particularly conspiracy on an enormous scale.

It really does sound like the kind of mistake Bush would make anyway.

It really does sound like the kind of mistake Bush would make anyway. - Cactoblasta

Certainly, it was also a gaffe he successfully made on two separate occasions.

Parated2k, it's one thing to provide speculation as to why the President would have said what he did, it's another thing to paint another blogger as one providing such theory when there is nothing in this record to support that assumptive leap.

Which is what Draginol attempted, and what you and many other, much more anonymous(you get to retain some credit for using your own name and rep.), trolls have played copycat to.

Like fleas hitching a ride on a mangy dog.

I weep for the lame.

No taking back words, you R a BULL SHIT

Opening the controversy was good as load of facts cropped up.

Kevin Barret is the only crank who's devoted more hours of his life then anybody else I know to proporting the idea that the government was behind it. As supporting facts, he states that the majority of the Muslim world believes that we did this to ourselves. Made up Al-Kills-R-Us-Da, filmed the scenes on a hollywood set of them setting around congratulating each other on the destruction of the towers.

I find that disturbing, of course I'm not alone, what I find equally distrubing is guys like Bill O'Reilly trying to get him fired from his job, via influencing Gov. Doyle, to influence the UW system. Barret is a PT instructor in Islamic studies, and as part of the discussion of Islam in the world they spend a week talking about 9/11. Gee wonder why? He allows students to challenge him on his what we call, "conspiracy idea" and he calls truth, and also to challenge their own conception of what happened.

So what if he believes in a conspiracy, invents facts, by the time you get to college, i.e. are an adult, you need to be able to sift through the world's B.S. and accept and reject facts, ideas, and spin on a case by case basis. You also need to be able to stay open minded and be able to reconsider posistions. Only by reconsidering facts and posistions can you come back and strengthen already strong posistions or re-examine weak ones.

In science usually the simplest answer is the correct one, which is simpler, massive government conspiracy, or terrorist attack against a complacent and unacceptably unaware advesary?

I think that answer speaks for itself.