There is no nice way for me to answer this stuff. CONSIDER THIS FOR ONCE: I do not believe in any god – I do not believe the bible is anything but barbarian fantasies – I am an atheist – I believe in evolution. Where is my wiggle room to appease a creationist who: Believes everything I believe is null and void – that the bible is the word (letter???) from just your god – that is an avid religious person – who believes the world to be 5,007 years old – one who believes in creation. The reason we cannot communicate is because you are a creationist and that tells me quite a bit about you.
Normally this is the part where I would say, the very fact that we are arguing using logic, which is a concept that evolution cannot account for, is proof there is something more than evolution behind us being here, at the least.
We are in no way using logic here. How in the world are you a creationist supposed to know what evolution may or may not produce when all you read is what others thumpers say it cannot do. Not only do you not believe in evolution, you allow 6,000 years for me to work with … but there’s more, take my word for it. Even my dog uses logic to get the treats I make more difficult for him to get. There is plenty of information available to those with a fully functioning computer describing animal logic and their amazing abilities, but I suppose I am supposed to go fetch them for you, huh. Is there a question in here??? It is not my job to teach evolution to you and seemingly it isn’t your job to just look at it. Is there any wonder why our logic is incompatible???
However, that would require us to be arguing logically, instead of you calling me ignorant and the writers of the Bible ignorant. See, the writers of the Bible didn't write it to explain evolution or creation. They wrote it to explain God. The Bible is God's letter to us. He DID sit us down and tell us about him.
By any standard I can think of, they were for the most part illiterate barbarians, for Christ sake they lived in the Bronze Age and before??? If the biblical writers weren’t explain creationism, then what are we disagreeing about??? I was always taught that the bible IS the word of god but if it is (???) letter, couldn’t he have written a coherent one with some truth in it? Was there a question in here??? I don’t know anything about you, but you sound ignorant to me, ask me some more and I will tell you what I really think. And of course by us you mean somebody else, the religious ‘us’. Any good true ‘birds and the bees’ story would have been more useful to humanity. Logic to you means only one thing, agreeing with you explicitly or being wrong about everything … in this case, I am perfectly happy being wrong all the time.
Now, beyond that, he built into creation the key that he exists, which is that as we discover more deeply what a cell is, how it works, and how we are atomically put together, etc, we merely continue to find that we are more and more complex than we ever imagined. That life has such complexities in it that we can't even see with the naked eye, that it had to be designed by someone - not just stuck here.
Biblical gobbledygook … was there a question in here??? Those barbarians didn’t know anything about cells or atomic structure (they couldn’t). This is just a modern 21st century creationist playing with science (even though it the devils work, being knowledge and all that). Now we are back to the designer huh. Take your ID and challenge the courts again, when they stop throwing you guys out on your behinds, then I will re-evaluate, maybe … but until then, I won’t allow you to go there free of charge. By the way, creationism went down the legal tubes first. I can make the argument that a rock is designed and you are clueless as to complexity because to you, it only means something you can ‘claim’ was designed by guess who again, without a stitch of evidence.
This is where you say I'm brainwashed and stupid and don't understand you. Can we just skip that part and have you actually, in a nice way, answer these points?
You got it in spades … was there a question in here???. I am more than willing to discuss evolution; only with someone who really doesn’t know about it (???) or someone who at least understands it (belief not required) … you don’t qualify on either count. But making silly statements like "evolution doesn't work, period" is such a conversation ender. You don't understand me and you are brainwashed ... you only believe the bible, what would you call it???