The eucharist you speak of comes from Mithras worship. "The Original Roman Empire Flag had on it Mithras, the sun god. Hold that thought. Missa, is latin for departed and was spoken at the end of Catholic mass so it seems that the liturgical procedure stems from that. Mass existed before RCC for it was what the pagan priests of Mithraism called their mass of the dead. This was a 'sacra-mental' ritual of animal and human sacrifices on an indoor altar with the pagan worshippers assembled in 2 rows of benches with a center aisle (wow looks familiar). Head pagan priest would lead this on the other end. The word abracadabra was used during the Mithraic Mass wehn they changed a sun-shaped disc of bread into the sun and ate it (wow sounds familiar). The Catholic priest does the same thing except he says 'hoc est corpus meum' which came about the phrase hocus-pocus which was used for any sleight of hand. The Mandaeans (Augustine was one before he converted. These are sun worshippers.) also had something similar to the 7 sacraments. They had baptism because they felt that baptism was necessary to fend off impurity. They had communion sacrements with a disc representing the sun which was offered in the rememberance of the dead (this sounds familiar). Man and Woman would take an unbreakable vow. Priest had a holy order."
You can go to ANY encyclopedia and look up Mithras and see the similarities between their 7 sacrements and rcc's. eucharist = pagan.
No, the Last Supper has nothing to do with this pagan concept of eucharist. ...... eucharist = pagan.
Also, you said that revelation 2:26 has something to do with the 'church'.
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@ The Peoples Party
AMEN to all you wrote here especially response #330.
eucharist = pagan.
You are not the first and won’t be the last to reject the Holy Eucharist. Christ knew some did not believe. Remember it’s here in St. John 6:64, that Judas fell away. “After this many of His disciples drew back and no longer went about with Him.” 6:66. (Interesting 3 numbers huh?).
You don’t believe in the literal Real Presence of our Lord in the Holy Eucharist, but now go even further saying the Eucharist is pagan. With that, you're not kickin for Christ, you're kickin' Christ.
eucharist = pagan.
Yep. I've been saying all along that the RCC is filled with a mixture of Christianity and Paganism. The best lies have truth woven into them. Lula can't see it because she's wearing protective lenses thinking it's a good thing when in fact it's blinding her to the truth of God's revealed WORD.
And what you've been saying all along about the Church is wrong, but I know you are only repeating the contradicitons of Protestantism itself of which you have been programmed without let-up.
The Blessed Eucharist is the sacramental presence of Christ Himself in the CC and goes to the heart of Catholicism. As a matter of fact, there is no true Christianity without the Eucharist any more than there is without the Incarnation itself.
In their eagerness to attack the Church, false charges have been made as the Eucharist is pagan and the Chruch and Catholicism is mixed with paganism....
A couple of points.
You're describing what's known as the pagan religions, particularly the Babylonian cults, that came into the Roman Empire from the East a few centuries before Christ. They all seem to have arisen through personifications of nature particulary birth and death as seen in the cycles of the seasons. Mithraism was widespread during the first centuries of Christianity chiefly amongst the pagan Roman soldiers.
Since these pagan cults had superficial similiarties to Catholicism thePP implies the false argument of descent. Mithraism had in its rites a symolic banquet of bread and water. But this wasn't sacramental in the Christian sense and had no similiarity with the Sacrament of the Holy Eucharist any more than any partaking of bread and water under any other conceivable circumstances. THePP assertions are entirely untrue. The early Christian rite was based upon the offering of Melchisedech which was of bread and wine, not bread and water and never, ever did the early Chruch substitute water for wine in this Sacramental rite. They knew quite well that water would be an invalid substance for the purposes of the Eucharist and that the very substances used by Christ Himself had to be used.
The first Christians were Jews and they would have never accepted pagan rites which they hated and held in the utmost abomination. Christ Himself promised the Eucharist while at the synagogue in Capharnaum and at the Last Supper He instituted the Eucharist. Read St.John 6: 25-70 Christ's discourse on the Bread of Life wher Christ promises to nousish mankind with the Divine soul-saving food of His own Flesh and Blood. He was telling the Jews that "I am the living bread which came down from heaven; if anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever; and the bread which I shall give for the life of the world is my flesh.....For my flesh is food indeed, and my blood is drink indeed."
My Lord Jesus repeated it and repeated it laying greater stress on the literal sense. At first the Jews thought he meant it metaphorically. Then after Jesus summarized, the Jews asked how can this man give us His flesh to eat? This is the point when they took Jesus at His word. They were stupified for they understood Jesus literally and correctly. Verse 60, many of them found it to be a "hard saying" they left.
Jesus asked the Apostles if they would also go. And St.Peter answered, "....you have the words of eternal life and we have believed..." At that time, they certainly didn't understand exactly what CHrist meant, but they accepted it becasue they believed in Christ and that's what we Catholics do as well.
But how could the faithful partake of His true living Flesh and Blood? Well, search the Scriptures...and you'll learn exactly how Christ intended to give His Flesh and Blood to the faithful to eat and drink...the full explanaton is found in the account of the Last Supper. St>Matt. 26:26-28; St.Mark 14:22-24; St.Luke 22:19-20.
These passages speak of the bread and wine which the OT predicted that Christ would offer a true sacrifice to God in bread and wine, that He would use those elements. Gen. 14:18 Melchisedech offered sacrifice under the form of bread and wine and Ps. 109 predicted that Christ would be a priest according to the order of Melchisedech.