The Father is God,

The Son is God

The HS is God.

The JW's have it all wrong.  They do not believe Jesus is God.  God did not create Jesus.  He always was.  Jesus is God in the Flesh.  My new modern view to say this is "God in skin." 

I was a JW and I know alot about their belief system. 

I thought you had been a Seventh Day Adventist?

Moses? 

Yep, was that too.  Baptised in that faith at 15.  Know alot about them as well.  Also have a good friend who is a SDA.  I've mentioned several times that I was involved in many cults over the years.  I find now that it was a good thing because I can help others in their search for the truth knowing alot firsthand about these belief systems. 

ha!  You were right Charles.

Hello Suhay.  Nice to meet you! 

in order to show them the truth you need to expose the lie.  In order to expose the lie, you must know the lies that are being told. 

no, not at all unless you want to say "their" truth.  That's why they're considered "cults" in the first place.   Usually they're pretty far off; depends tho on how much truth is sprinkled in with the lies. 

it's not easy but I don't think of it as an "alternative" truth.  I guess that's because I'm not into relativism much. 

It's basically the same for anything.  Do they really want the truth or do they want their group?  If they don't want the truth, conversation ends. 

Before Jesus healed the paralytic he asked "Do you really want to be well?"  

you'd be surprised! 

There is human health of the body and spritiaul health of the soul.  Jesus had the paralyitic's spiritual wellness in mind.  

Does the Greek language have a definite article?

Because when Jesus said "I am (the/a) son of G-d", how do we know it means "a son of G-d" (like we all are, and what in Hebrew means a religious person) or "the son of G-d", a unique relationship only Jesus would have?

MasonM,

As you so often do you posted a very clear and well-thought-out comment.

I totally agree with you that the Trinity is a misunderstanding. In fact I believe it was a way to reconcile belief in the one G-d of Israel with the polytheism popular among Greeks and Romans. G-d wouldn't have spend 1400 years telling the Israelites to repeat "G-d is one... G-d is one... G-d is one..." just then to reveal that it was all a joke and He is in fact not one but three.

That would be consistent with Jesus' Jewish religion.

In fact the spirit is mentioned several times in the Tanakh. But it never was a distinct personality.

You are a non-Trinitarian Christian. I respect that.

Jesus also said "when you see me you see the Father."  Jesus and the Father are one.  They are both God and Jesus as well as the Apostles taught this clearly. 

Jesus NEVER demanded anyone to worship him.  True.   That's why I hate to see Altar calls.  He never pleaded or begged others to come to Him. That's where election comes in Mason but you and I are in disagreement over that.  But he did ACCEPT worship from others when angels and apostles flatly denied it. 

The deity of Christ is an essential, nonnegotiable tenet of the Christian faith.  Several lines of biblical evidence flow together to prove conclusively that He is God. 

1.  Paul wrote that Jesus existed in the form of God possessing absolute equality with God (Phil 2:6).  He also wrote "For in Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form."  Peter calls Jesus "our God and Savior."  Even God the Father addressed the Son as God in Hebrews 1:8.  John referred to Jesus as "the true God"  1 John 5:20.

2.  Jesus receives titles in Scripture given to God.  He took for Himself the divine name "I am."  God and Jesus are both called Shepherd, Judge, Holy One, First and Last, Savior, Mighty God, Lord of Lords, Alpha and Omega and Redeemer among other names.

3.  Jesus possesses the attributes of God.  Scripture reveals Christ to be eternal, omnipresent, omniscient, omnipotent, immutable, sovereign and glorious.

4.  Jesus does the works that only God can do.  He created all things (john 1:3, Col 1:16) sustains the creation (Col 1:17, Heb 1:3) raises the dead (John 5:21, 11:25-44), forgives sin (Mark 2:10) and His word stands forever (Matt 24:35, Isa 40:8).

5.  Jesus received worship (Matt 14:33, 28:9, John 9:38, Philip 2:10, Heb 1:6) even though he taught that only God is to be worshiped (Matt 4:10).  Scripture also records that both holy men and holy angels refused worship (Acts 10:25-26, Rev 22:8-9). 

6.  Finally Jesus Christ received prayer which is only to be addressed to God (John 14:13-14, Acts 7:59-60, 1 John 5:13-15). Before Stephen died he "called upon God saying 'Lord Jesus receive my spirit.'" 

Mason, you don't know your bible.  Jesus is God in the flesh.   Jesus said himself in John 14:

"Have I been so long with you and yet you have not know me Philip?  He that has seen me has seen the Father and how do you say then Show us the Father?  Believe you not that I am in the Father and the Father in me?  The words that I speak to you I speak not of myself but the Father that dwells in me, he does the works. Believe me that I am in the Father and the Father in me; or else believe me for the very works sake.  Verily, verily, I say to you, He that believes on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than thse shall he do because I go to my Father.  And whatsoever you shall ask in my name that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.  If you shall ask any thing in my name I will do it." 

So when you pray to the Father, you are also praying to Jesus.  They are one.  They are both God.  One God revealed in three persons. 

Mason just got done saying he does not believe in the Trinity.  The RCC does believe not only in the Trinity but that Jesus is God.  I totally agree with the RCC here and know that's  exactly what the bible teaches.  So now you have to take Mason's word for it or you need to read the bible for yourself.  Jesus said "who do you say that I am?"  That's the million dollar question. 

The simplist answer would be the resurrection.  His resurrection proved he wasn't any ordinary man like we were not to mention all the other things he did.  While anyone can claim to do a miracle not too many resurrect themselves. 

Then read the Jewish Historian Josephus's account of the first century.  "Antiquities of the Jews."   That's a good thing about the evidence.  Because all that Rome had to do was come up with the body.  They could not.  That's the whole point.  King David's tomb was known, Joseph, and all the Patriachs were also known but Jesus was the only one that was no longer in his tomb.  It was empty because he had risen. 

One thing is clear the resurrection was not a metaphor.  Many men within just a few short years after the resurrection put their lives on the line by defending this resurrection.  Like I've said before, while men may live for a lie, they are not going to die for one.  Especially not that many. 

To see the lives of the first martyrs before the resurrection and how drastically they changed after spoke volumes. 

Jesus Himself answered your quiery when He said, "I and the Father are One." That too is in complete agreement with Deut.6:4, "Hear O Isreal, the Lord our God is One God." God is not a God of contradiction.

Jesus wasn't created.

Jesus is God Incarnate sent to the world by taking the form of a human.  Jesus even while He was on earth as a man, was always a Divine Person.