Does it occur to anyone that maybe CNN and others might be slighting their news into a more favorable light for the democrats, and it's not just that Fox news is some conservative-whacko-show?
I don't get this. I very rarely see people posting links to sophomoric Olbermann segments, the majority of liberals/progressives I know don't rally around a personality figure the way conservatives do around Glenn Beck. I watched that video the republicans are whining about with the celebrities taking a pledge to Obama at the end, and all I could think was "this is creepy" and "who gives a shit about Ashton Kutcher?"
I just think prominent democratic figures (beside Obama) aren't nearly as important and need not be defended the way someone like Beck/Limbaugh is. Point out some crazy shit a progressive said and at least in my circle of friends we'll call it crazy along side you. Try posting a thread with some of the outrageous Olbermann stunts or diatribes and see how many people rise up to defend it, I seriously doubt many will care, other than the conservatives who jump on it to bash the guy.
You guys need to disassociate the information from the personality. The fact that people here are still linking Glenn Beck's site in spite of his antics which are clearly eccentric and off-putting instead of going to a more presentable source which corroborates thestory cuts to the heart of the issue.
This is speculation on my part, but given that Obama won the election by a significant amount and Fox is still getting better ratings than the other 'liberal' networks I'm inclined to believe it shows a large number of progressives are getting their news from other sources. For better or worse that means the internet. I mention that because I just really don't have the strong feelings towards any liberal news personalities that you guys seem to have with yours. I rarely see Olbermann lionized, and if he had a tea party I might send him a dress and some stuffed dolls, but I certainly wouldn't go chant in front of a camera for him.
That's not to say that there aren't plenty of people out there who would, but overall I think liberals just don't put anyone on a pedestal the way you guys seem to.
What disgusts me are the growing numbers of gamers of the system, lazy assholes that have nothing better to do than sit on their asses, complain that every problem in their life is someone elses fault while sucking up resources, taxes paid in by hard working prideful Americans, honest people being taxed over a barrel for someone elses benefit.
Yeah, I have a H U G E problem with that.
Want to completely ruin a society... put everyone on welfare.
I find this perplexing too. Clinton (with a republican congress) worked arduously to cut back the number of people on welfare. The recent spike of people applying for welfare has an obvious economic trigger.
I don't doubt that there's people gaming the system, but that's inevitable with any system. The 9/11 charity debacle is a perfect example of how reprehensible people can be especially since charity systems tend to be inherently poorly policed. That doesn't mean, however, that the purpose of welfare is thwarted, it just means that, assuming investigation wouldn't cost so much that it's a major net loss, the qualifications of welfare recipients need to be more effectively enforced. I'm sure it's a very complicated issue when you go through the technical aspects of it.
I just view people gaming the system the way department stores view 'shrinkage.' You need to establish acceptable thresholds and act accordingly when they're crossed, not just close up shop.