And why shouldn't the government reform the health care system? Wo else can? The private insurers out of the goodness of their hearts?
This is something I have to continue to remind people, not everyone is against reform, (some are but few) they are against Obama's reform. People here say that out system sucks, most will agree, even Republicans. You all need to get out of your heads the idea that Republicans/Conservatives don't want reform. We never said we don't want reform, we just don't want Obama's reform.
Simply put: Because it's stupid. Spinning euthanasia councelling into a death panel designed to kill grannys and unworthy life just seems too far fetched in these modern times, especially after WW2. But I admit that some might believe this nevertheless and are still intelectually capable of using the internet, so I'll remove that point from the OP.
Well, lets keep in mind that when it comes to spinning things both sides are just as good so let's be fair here. Now, if this whole "kill granny" (which BTW, I think it's an exaggerated comment) thing was not in the bill, please explain why the Senate chose to remove the end-of-life part of the bill? I mean if they thought it was a good thing, why give in? To avoid misinterpretation or is it because they expected people not to get it at all and when faced with the possibility that people figured out their little game they chose to remove it just to avoid the getting caught all together? Talk about something "fishy". This current administration has one hell of an issue getting people to understand anything they say or write. I have lost count as to how many "what he/she really meant" quicker-fixer-upper comments have been done.
But feel free to remove it, my goal was to alow people to have their say just in the same manner you got to have your say. So if you gonna remove it, don't do it on my account, you have the right to express your opinions. I only ask not to disregard others opinions just because you find them "stupid". Calling something stupid does not make your opinion a fact.
Interesting. So you think they'll raise taxes not only high enough to cover the reform cost but even higher, so they get more money for federal projects?
You say that as if that's not something the Gov't does all the time? Do you think they won't do that? Funny you question that considering Democrats are all for raising taxes.The stimulus bills passed, the omnibus bill, etc were passed as being for specific reasons then all of a sudden we find all these very interesting pork add-ons. Even my firefox doesn't have that many add-ons.
Control for control's sake? Or do you mean control over the market via regulations for the sake of ... let's say stability or predictability?
Come on, was my response really that complicated? I didn't write a 1000 page reply written in Senate/Congress language you know. Control, the more the gov't controls the less they have to worry about losing it. Does it really matter what they are controlling?
And frankly I don't understand your last point. Don't you have a democracy where you directly vote for your representatives in the government? How can you say you-the-people don't have control? Or do you simply resent that you-the-other-people currently have control?
I was talking about healthcare not the Gov't system. We don't really have control over our healthcare. What are our current choices? Pay insurance based on what the insurance company offers, get Gov't help depending on what you qualify for or pay up the ying yang out of your own pocket. Where is the control? How come doctors are not fighting for our business like other businesses due? Simple because no matter what price it is we need doctors more than they need us hence no control. As for the Gov't system and us havong control thanks to the Constitution it is the people who have control, but thanks to ignorance it's as if we don't because on average people would rather watch American Idol, Desperate House Wive, House or Deadliest Catch than make it their business to know whats going on around them. The way people vote and act one would think that our only duty as Americans is to vote some stranger into the highest office and then hope he does good.
Charles, why would the goverment want control?
Hmmm, that's a good question. Ask Obama. First the banks (with Bush's help), then the automobile industry, now he wants more energy control and to top it off, he wants to control healthcare. Next thing you know he'll make everyone a Gov't employee.
I thought the only goal of politicians apart from ideological ones was to be reelected, so they hopefully make sound decisions to sway the voters.
well if you think about it, with more control you have less chances of not getting reelected. I am curious though, do you think calling people unAmerican, brownshirts, stupid, mobs, etc is a good way of getting reelected?