First, there are just as many corrupt people in religion as there are in science. There are good and bad people in every possible group. It's just how it is.
Second, there are people that claim to be religious so they can be viewed as credible to others that are religious. They don't really care about how God may judge them.
I agree on this as well.
Third, there have been hoaxes from both the religious and scientific fields. Lying is in human nature, so you will get it from every end, you just have to learn how to find what is the truth.
You're three for three. I agree with this. We need to search out what is true and what is not. I have spoken alot about those phonies in the churches, but this article was strictly about science since that was what the article in the times was about.
Fourth, just as using a few examples of human dishonesty in the religious field to discredit all religion/faith/spirituality is ridiculous, so is using a few examples of human dishonesty in the field of science to discredit all science.
True. I'm not trying nor would I ever attempt to try and discredit science.
Fifth, not everyone that is involved in science is an atheist. That's a ridiculous, and incorrect, over-statement.
Did I say that? Almost anyone here who knows me knows that I have a son who is a Scientist. His undergrad degree is in Molecular Biology and he's almost done with his graduate work mostly in the Neuro Science field. He's working on a cure for epilepsy and has a few written articles in the Scientific Journals.
Anyhow this son is very Christian and is even not close to being atheistic.....although so far all of his colleagues he's worked with are atheists. There are Christians in the science field but the majority of them are unbelievers from what I see, especially today. I don't believe it was always like that. We have some pretty famous Scientists in history who believed in the Supreme Creator.
Don't believe anything at face value, whether it's from a religious perspective, or a scientific one.
Of course, since human's are lazy, there will always be people that fall for lies from both sides.
Agree. Wow Silver and Jade, we are mostly in agreement on this one.
Christian aren't ridiculed for faith in an unchanging God. If they are ridiculed for having faith in an unchanging book.
they are ridiculed for both. And they both go together. An unchanging God is going to have an unchanging word. Truth never changes and since God is truth he nor his word would change, would it?
I'm willing to admit it. Are you willing to admit that there may be 'faked data' (as you define it) in the Bible?
No, not in the bible anymore than I am willing to admit there is faked data in true Science. The bible has proven itself over and over to the most sincere critics out there.
Gravity is truth........thermodynamics is truth.....the earth revolving around the earth is truth....the bible is truth.