If teaching them about God and Jesus is what a parent considers information necessary for survival then that's their decision, that does not constitute brainwashing because brainwashing means to force them into believing it as oppose to teaching them and hoping it sticks. Just because someone says "this is what I was raised to believe" does not mean they were brainwashed, it could also mean they chose to stick to those beliefs.
I'm pretty sure that's exactly what I said. Let's see: "Brainwashing involves crafting a minature copy of you with all your biases and beliefs...like a little robot. They aren't allowed to have differeing opinions, they aren't allowed to be their own person and come to their own conclusions."
Yep, pretty much what I said.
You gotta be more specific here Zoo, this is a whole lot of generalizing. Even not having a religion could still preach hate.
I said extreme. Not every religion.
she simply said she believe it should be a man and a woman. was that really wrong? Did she deserve to be called a bitch by this man on his site? Did she deserve to be called a bimbo or an idiot just because she was honest in her beliefs?
I wouldn't say she deserves anything. She has the right to think what she wants, but people also have the right to comment on it. Whatcha gonna do?
I'm confused about this comment,
I wasn't commenting directly on the girl, moreso the attitude as a whole of making gay marriage illegal. In fact, a lot of my stuff didn't relate directly to the girl. I like to expound on a topic.
There's a stipulation here isn't there? Admit it. The stipulation is as long as you go with the current culture it's not brainwashing only education.
? Haha! I have plenty of beliefs that don't line up with our culture. I wouldn't even consider myself a part of mainstream culture for that matter. I just happen to have opinions that coincide with the consensus...which is what culture is, a matter agreed on by the majority- the food you eat, the clothes you wear, your ideals about the world, etc. and so forth.
Who's to say Miss California's parents didn't do EXACTLY as you define "education?" How do you know her parent's "brainwashed" her as you said earlier? You jumped to that conclusion because of her opinion. Own it Zoo. It doesn't match what the current culture is dictating so therefore it means she was brainwashed?
I never said she, herself, was brainwashed...she could just be closeminded all on her own. Read carefully before you fly off the handle, please. I just took that one thing you said made a comment about it. 'Brought up to believe' for me indicates an instilling of beliefs...which sounds a lot like brainwashing. I just think that when people wholeheartedly believe something for no apparent reason...there's something odd there. I know the Bible says this or that, but there's no evidence backing the reason why it would be a negative thing...I'm stumped, honestly.
I find it cute that a conservative is railing against the popular culture. You sound an awful lot like a 60s style hippy.
So being homosexual (having sex with the same gender) is NOT a choice but is a gentetic factor? You know this as a complete fact? So you have no choice in choosing what gender you're going to have sex with (or abstaining) in the same way you have no choice to change your color you were obviously born with?
I haven't isolated the exact gene yet, but I'm working on it. There is potential that it's genetic or otherwise influenced by biology. There are gay animals after all...and as far as I know animals usually don't make conscious decisions like that. That aspect alone is pretty interesting.
Also: Note how I said the word 'probably'. Not the word 'are'.
Let me ask you this: Can you choose who you're attracted to? Did you look at your spouse and consciously decide that you like him or did it just happen? If being gay is a choice, then we can be attracted to anyone we want to with sheer force of will...and I guarantee that that doesn't happen. You just can't 'love' on command.
And no I haven't been brainwashed. I'm in a genetics class now and the topic hasn't even been brought up. Jeez, you people and your liberal education rants...liberal doesn't mean political in this context. We're being taught to think critically not rehash other people's ideas. If it was the latter it would be so much easier.
now you're spreading lies here Zoo. You're using Phelps as your example to do so. Do you know the gospel?
What part of extreme don't you people understand? Extreme denotes an extreme view...got it? Charles can use extreme Islam as an example and no one says one word. I bring up extreme Christianity and there's no way that's possible? Just because a religion preaches peace doesn't mean that message gets through to everyone.
4 states down, 56 to go
Holy crap? Did I write that? 46, 46, 46...remind me not to comment when I'm tired...*sigh*...