Lula
The bible was here way before the Protestant Reformation and before the formation of the RCC.
I stand by what I said.
And I ask again. Please don't turn this into a Protestant/Catholic debate.
And since you are clearly Protestant and I am clearly Catholic, how do you expect us to debate when we disagree on something?
The bible was here way ...... before the formation of the RCC.
If you don't want me to bring up the Church, why do you keep making false accusations against it like this one?
Or your persistent claim above that the CC is just another Christian denomination when in truth, only the CC existed from the moment of the first Pentecost day as a fully organized society with the Apostles at its head..they who received St.Peter's words were baptized, and there were added in that day about 3,000. And they were persevering in the doctrine of the APostles and in the communication of the breaking of bread and in prayers (Holy Eucharist in the Holy Mass) Acts 2:41-42 until the 15th century Protestant rebellion from it and then and only then were all the thousands of denominations and sects developed.
This statement of yours is simply not true. The Catholic Church and the one true faith existed before the Bible and that seems an elementary fact which no one can deny. If the Bible teaches anything plainly it is that Christ established a Church; one that started in His day and He would be with until the end of time. As the followers of the Mosaic Law under the OT formed one body, so too were the followers of Christ to be one body, one Lord, one faith, one Baptism Eph. 4:4-5. They must hear and obey, "He who hears you, hears Me, he who rejects you, rejects Me St.Luke 10:16. Christ compares His Church to a flock, a sheepfold, a city seated on a mountain, a kingdom, He calls it My Chruch, not churches or thousands of denominations or sects. Most fittingly then, does this kingdom of God merit the designation of St.Paul, "The Church of the living God in 1Tim. 3:15.
According to the Book of Acts, thousands of people came to the faith through the work of the Apostles and their successors by the laying on of hands. They believed the whole truth of God just as Catholics believe it now before they ever saw or read or could possibly see or read a single sentence of inspired Scripture of the NT, for the simple reason that such Scripture did not then exist. How did they become Christians? In the same way that the uneducated pagans or those who cannot read..by hearing the truth of God by Christ's missionaries.
Nothing was further from the minds of of those Apostles and disciples "sent out to teach all nations" than the idea that all the composed works would be compiled into one volume we know today as the Holy Bible. No one would have been more shocked than St.Paul himself at the idea of his letters usurping the place of the authoritative teacher--the Chruch. He said, "How shall they hear without a preacher? How shall they preach unless they be sent? Faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of Christ. (not written Word, but the oral Word).
KFC, even Protestant scholars of the highest standing admit that the living teaching of the Chruch was the means chosen by Christ for the spread of His Gospel and that the committing of it to writing was a later and secondary development.
It was the Catholic Chruch who collected the 46 OT Books and also composed, selected, and formed the 27 NT canon.
The bible was here way before the Protestant Reformation ...
True..but that isn't what I challenged you on. You claim that the Bible is the one absolute truth and instead of defending your own statement, you come back protesting the Church.
Protestantism continues to be what its adherants call it today...a protest. A protest against Christ's divinely established teaching authority in the world...His Church built upon St.Peter, and the substitution of the Bible, interpreted by each individual reader, in the Church's place according to 1Tim. 3:15.