The big issue here is that it is in Obama's best interest to be completely candid as to his, or members of his team's, involvement in any discussions with Blagojevich.  The Prosecutor has wire taps of the phone and if any of Obama staff (or Obama himself) happen to be on those tapes either making a deal with Blago or having knowledge that Blago is attempting to make a deal for the seat that will be less painful knowlege if it comes from Obama than it would from a Federal Prosecutor.

Sorry King.  Totally didn't see it before Stubby's.  Points for you, bee-man.

I'm still waiting for ID to admit that he wants the Obama campaign to go down to Hawai'i and demand that there be a copy made of his birth certificate for every person in the country, since that seems to be what he wants.

My sister told me to be nice, but you're a bunch of irrational fools.

Yes.  Fools.

Supposedly, Obama is in Hawaii, his supposed birthplace....playing golf, getting a little R& R, whatever....

While he's there, he should produce official proof....  

And where was the mass campgaign saying that the proof that McCain produced was false?

There are justifial arguments against Obama but bringing up this frankly stupid theory just discredits the value of any other argument raised.  

Everybody who has seen it says it is correct.  It was correct enough for a passport.  It is the only document that hawaii produce.  It has been verified by several different people etc etc

LOL.  I never said I want everyone in the country to get a copy, don't put words in my mouth.  I want to see Obama produce the original documents that he has sealed, made available to the public. 

I had to produce the original copy given at the hospital, or provide some type of proof that it doesn't exist.  Not copies of copies of copies like Obama has been doing.

You didn't follow the campaign much then, eh?  Nobody questioned Obama about anything.

The document supplied by Obama is all that any court in the land requires to prove place of birth and it is all that is required for any candidate to produce period. It's you that are asking for more than the law requires because you think there's a massive conspiracy. Why should he comply with the demands of conspiracy theorist? Not just any conspiracy this one involves the Republicans and the Democrats. Don't you think that both McCain and Hilary would have rather that Obama had just went away? Yet I don't recall either one asking that Obama produce any more proof of his Presidential eligibility.

It must have been a jedi mind trick; Obama waves hand, "you don't need to see any more proof of my eligibility". Even if your right and by some supernatural feat of influence he managed to convince among many others Hawaii state registrar Alvin T. Onaka to produce a forgery he would most certainly have to produce another one if compelled just to cover for the first forgery. Geese with this much unnatural influence maybe we should strip him down for a thorough body search to look for the "mark of the beast".

Why don't you do a search for other proponents of this conspiracy theory. Seeing the kind of company you keep might offer some perspective.

Can't commit on where you've been living but yes a certified copy is all that is needed.

Mr. Onaka has confirmed this stamped signature.

as in the very first copy made (that being the single possible logical conclusion since no subsequent copy can be accurately deemed an original)?

either way, a copy can never be an original no matter how desperately you equivocate.

in fact, you didn't produce your original bc and, short of some extraordinary event**, you won't at anytime in future.

**for instance, you visit the hall or records or state archive or wherever they keep em and the entire staff on duty that day is frightened so badly by your aluminum foil & mylar headwear they flee en masse, providing you unmonitored access to your file. 

Claimed to be fake but they were wrong, just a bad photocopy of a legitimate bc.

Merry Christmas moonbats.

it's on my to-do list and has been for a while.  it's just so important to me that i build on a strong foundation...i simply refuse to settle for anything less than an original edition of those "dick n' jane" primers.

I don't believe it was a 'faked' copy, but a 'scanned' copy.  When you scan something in order to distribute it in electronic form, a program opens it for saving, printing or editing, in this case Photoshop since someone found PS 'tags' in the image file.

Here's stubby's link again -  FactCheck

Ipso ergo, there are no disputes to settle.

Nah, you wouldn't want it - not green enough.