It says the local storehouse, which is pretty vague. But I say it means the local church, and since I am always right, you better get back in line!
hahahaha ok, you've got me a-shakin' in my sandals!
you must be speaking of Malachi? Again, this was a Jewish concept never given to the Christians in the NT although the principle to give is for both Jew and Gentile.
but I do not see getting government benefits (ie, free lunches) as being "taken care of by God" -- I see it as taking benefits away from someone else who needs it just as much or more and who couldn't afford to give $800/year away to the Church.
of course God can use whatever means he wants to make sure you're provided for whether that means a doorbell ring with a meal from a neighbor or free lunches from the government. He says he puts rulers in their positions and the government is under his control to begin with. God works all things good for those who love God and are called according to his purpose.
You seem to have an issue with the free lunches. Ok, going back to the math..........making $8,000 in taxable income qualified a family back then (like mine) for free lunches. If I decided to give God a portion of that money whether it be $200$400 or $800 or whatever it doesn't make me any less eligible before or after. We were very thankful for the kids free lunches back then and only used that service for maybe three or four years or so until our business got running. Later on we gave back the $500 to the church when we could afford to do so many years later. We never forgot that.
if you give more than you can afford and you don't get "blessed" by God, does that mean you didn't have enough faith?!?
I never said to "give more than you can afford." What I did say is that everyone regardless of income (all is relative) can give 10 cents on the dollar to God and not be harmed. And instead, can be very blessed. God says the storehouse will be open to you.....story after story after tesimony after testimony have borne this out.
You are speaking of having a clenched tight fist, holding tightly to everything you have because you deem yourself as more worthy than the next guy. I'm saying, open your clenched fist and by doing so, having your hand open giving to God also allows God to give back to you in that same opened hand. Open to overflowing blessings from above.
You are very quick to point out how great your efforts are (giving to kids in Hondorous for example). Before you are so quick to judge others (or hold yourself up as an example to others) you should consider for a minute that there is a lot that you don't know. Many people give anonymously and don't feel the need for public cheers for all they do.
oh please. I'm damned if I do and damned if I don't? And you're very quick to assume what we are saying is untrue even though we have first hand knowledge of experiencing it to be true.
First of all I'm speaking in general terms only telling you what my church does back home in giving us opportunities to give of our time and treasure . I gave you no indication what I give and don't give other than the fact I support a child from World Vision. I never said what I do or don't do for the team that travels to Hondorus. You have no idea what I do or don't do or how much I give or don't give. It's not your business to know.
I'm not judging anyone and find you are taking this all too personally. That I can't help other than to think you must be convicted here about all this. That's not a bad thing btw. I also give anonymously and think that's a good way to give. So no disagreement there.
This is just a discussion group, not a judgment hall.
Giving starts with the heart and is between you and God period.