If you don't get it yet, then just hang an "I'm a retard" sign around your neck so the rest of us can steer clear. If you DO get it (and I know you do, because I don't think you're a retard and those are the only two choices)
No, it doesn't. Evolution has zero to do with origin
Ok KFC, I didn't see anything in that post supporting evolution encompassing origins; and your assertion that everything must have one is backed up by what?
Evolution has nothing to do with origin.
Anyone ever tell you that you repeat yourself quite a bit? Ok OCK as promised, I'll reply to what you said above.
You sound like a gold-star member of the Richard Dawkins fan club which is quite interesting given your claims of being open minded.
Dawkins was the one who said: "It is absolutely safe to say that if you meet somebody who claims not to believe in evolution, that person is ignorant, stupid or insane (or wicked, but I'd rather not consider that)." ("Put Your Money on Evolution The New York Times (April 9, 1989)section VII p.35)
Now am I still an idiot? According to Dawkins I am. But I'd say to him.... "A fool says in his heart there is no God."
This is a difficult topic and you are both right and wrong. But per usual Ock I find you arguing over the details. I can vouch that you are very detailed oriented thats for sure.
While Darwin didn't write a book titled "The Evolution of Man" he did write one titled "The ORIGIN of Species," Darwinian evolution technically does not explain the origin of life. It begins after the formation of he first living cell. Darwin intentionally remained publicly silent on this subject.
Did you know in the first addition of the book it was written:
"I should infer from analogy that probably all the organic beings which have ever lived on this earth have descended from some one primordial form, into which life was first breathed."
The second addition of the book added this to the end of that statement: "by the Creator"
The third addition of the book removed the whole statement. Why?
It's almost like Darwin was going back and forth about whether he should "throw the Christians a bone." but for the most part he tried to keep out of this controversy. He wrote:
"In what manner the mental powers were first developed in the lowest organisms, is as hopeless as how life itself first originated. These are problems for the distant future, if they are ever to be solved by man." (Descent of Man, chapter 2, 1871).
HOWEVER, evolution is intrinsically connected to the origin of life. You can go back and back and back in the ancestrial lineage, but you eventually need to come to the begining- life from non-life. thus, Darwinism forms the basis by which modern science theoreticizes the origin of
life from non-life. for this reason RICHARD DAWKINS wrote: "Darwin made it possible to be an intellectually fulfilled atheist." (The Blind Watchmaker, 1996 p.6)
Want more? Isn't this plain and straight about origins?
"Darwin's theory of evolution by natural selection is the only workable explanation that has ever been proposed for the remarkable fact of our own existence, indeed the existence of all life wherever it may turn up in the universe." (Forward to The Theory of Evolution by John Maynard Smith, 2000 p.xv)
Why is that? Could it be no other explanation is wanted or allowed? Can't share the pie?
Darwin definately understood that the evolution of species was connected to the origin of species. he wrote the following in a letter to Joeseph Dalton Hooker, 1871:
"It is often said that all the conditions for the first production of a living organism are now present, which could ever have been present. But if (and oh! what a big if!) we could conceive in some warm little pond, with all sorts of ammonia and phosphoric salts, light, heat,
electricity, &c., present, that a proteine (sic) compound was chemically formed ready to undergo still more complex changes, at the present day such matter would be instantly absorbed, which would not have been the case before living creatures were found."
BTW abiogenesis (term coined by TH Huxley in 1870) is the study of life from non-life. It is technically separate from evolution but completely connected to it at the same time. Evolutionists separate the origin from evolution. Creationist tend to combine the two ideas.