Well, with people that won't do what is needed (common freaking sense), on both sides, nothing at all. All we need is for people to realize that taking care of the earth isn't akin to being satan incarnate, and to get people out there that actually have practical and pragmatic ideas.
Please understand that all Christians, Hebrews, and most Islamism are good Stewarts of the land and believe in taking care of the land God gave them. One the other side you have people that are radical communists that hide behind the mantle of environmentalism in order to push their agenda of hate and anarchy. Look at the ELF, they proclaim to save the Earth from us, by burning whole car lots of new SUV’s and mansions, and apartment complexes. Sure they know that fire pollutes the air and destroys the land as well as private property. This is not environmentalism it is terrorism.
Other groups make the same claim while attacking financial institutions and businesses. This leads me to believe that most of the nut jobs out there are either suckered into the movement or stupid.
Stalin was crazy, but he was no communist. Heck, even the so called communist revolution in Russia was a bunch of bollocks, because according to Marx, a people's revolution can only happen when food supplies are optimum and their is production driven by greed. (More or less) From what I remember, "Soviet Russia" was closer to a socialist country, with a touch of dictatorship, oligarchy, etc... It's Ironic that it was called a communist country when one of the main things with communism is a classless society, obviously there were social classes.
I never mentioned the man of steel, translation of the word Stalin, I only commented about Lenin and the deaths attributed to his reign of power. Actually they called themselves communist/socialist. They tried to claim the best of both philosophies and failed. They had two classes those in power and those without.
Also, you seem to equate being an enviromentalist as being insane. I would like to say that your assumption or stereotype is completely wrong. I am an enviromentalist, but not crazy.
Then I suggest you re-read what I wrote and then read my above reply to you.
Addendum, You say that communism is not enviromentally friendly, so I ask this: Is capitalism any better?
Yes, as soon as it became clear that killing the land around them they cleaned it up. You don’t remember the great Lake Michigan. The old joke was that it was so polluted that an atheist could walk across it. People complained the business responded. President Nixon responded with the creation of the EPA to force those shortsighted businesses to do what is right. It has since been taken over by wing nuts that use the laws to cripple business rather than protect the land.
For that matter, is any industrialized nation any better?
You are correct only in America do we care enough to clean up our messes. Canada and Mexico are disasters. Europe is a mess; South Korea and Japan are two that keeps its environment in close to good shape.
No. Beacause when you have industrialization, and growth of population (among other things), you'll have enviromental problems.
As soon as it became clear that there was a problem we started to fix it, it took from the 1940’s to the 1960’s before it was clear that our lakes and rivers were not good dumping grounds we no longer do that, but at one time it was considered normal practice to dump waste into rivers and lakes because no one bothered to notice the cumulative effect of the dumping. Other nations are 60 years behind us at best.
Communism is only a part of the debacle. The real culprit, is ourselves.
I disagree, in America we have a separation of government and business. Where as in other countries business and government work together in order to make money, if pollution is a problem they write laws to allow businesses to continue to pollute.
Dude, it's a fact. Lenin (Or Stalin) was not a communist, he couldn't have been. Ask any historian, anyone who actually studies it.
You are too young to understand how your school is messing with your mind while re-writing history to suit their current views. Back when the Soviet Union was still solvent they touted the miracle of communism, we capitalists were wrong and all would be right with the world if we only allowed communism to work. Then when they went bankrupt the story changed to if they only had enough money they would have built a utopian model for us to follow. Now they are not communist because they failed but for 50 years they sat in academe trying to convince the students that we needed to go communist.
Time magazine named Iosef Vissarionovich Stalin his real name was Iosef Vissarionovich Dzhugashvili, he changed it to Stalin to make him sound strong, as man of the year. When the deaths, torture, and gulags were reported the academics dismissed this as propaganda to destroy a great man. When the proof was provided just like global warming the facts were ignored. During spring break 1975 I went to the USSR, lovely place. It made our ghettos look palatial, the air stunk from pollution, and people lived in fear. Fear of freezing to death, starving to death, being hauled away in the middle of the night and killed by their own government.
You are correct it was not pure communism just like America is not a pure democracy or capitalist society.
And you know what, while I don't want to have polluted water, or dirty air, I know i cannot change you. I'm not the environmentalist who will shove it down your throat. Sorry Doc.
Not speaking for the esteemed Dr. Guy, I don’t disagree with taking care of the land we live on, what gets my shorts in a knot is that we are the blame for everything, we saw the problem and put a set of fixes in place, the environMENTALIST, came along after and began their crap. Business and Government worked together to clean up the mess rather than ignore it. You don’t need to ram it down peoples throats because the ones that get it do something about it rather than burning down things and creating hate and discontent.
Those who do that are hypocrites, period.
On this all free thinking people agree.