Lulapilgrim, Sorry to disagree with you here but you can find Egyptian writings several thousand years old that list your commandments virtually verbatim … Ever read the Papyrus of Ani, there are some very interesting things in there …
I am not going to do theology because you know I cannot. But I will add this. Everything I say you take as a direct (personal?) attack and that is not the case. I am not trying to criticize you with history. I am trying to point out that factual historical records from that time are far from complete … but it just seems logical that all these miracles and Godly deeds were performed for the salvation of the people; one would think there would have been some records of events from people who were actually there.
Self–serving individualism was used in the context of how I see, how you see me. It was not a reference to you or yours. This is what I mean about self–serving to me. There are few examples I can recall in which you did not make your arguments with theological references and scripture quotes, etc. It made no difference to you (seemingly) considering my religious preference. And the topic matter seemed to have no bearing either. It just seems that you cannot communicate any other way than religiously. Is this how you talk with your friends? Don’t you actually have any of your own feelings? I do not enjoy talking with people who cannot or don’t want to talk about anything but shop.
People who will not accept Christ's Church and who insist on puzzling out religious sense for themselves have no one to blame but themselves if they end in skepticism. (If the government (God) establishes an inquiry office as a guide to the city (the Church) and a person refuses to use its services, he is to blame if he gets lost.).
I have never attempted to puzzle out religion because I do not think that is the least bit practical or necessary. It has always been a very simple logical search for me to prove the validity (or not) of the Big Dog. You know what my conclusions were and that is the end of it for me. Without step 1, the next thousands steps are moot.
Enjoy your religion and bask in all its glory. All I ask is that you try to converse with me, human to human.
This might open a whole new can or worms, but I wonder.....What is that genealogy for the so called evolution of man?
Agreed, we would have to cover a monumental amount of time ... much more than you will ever grant me ... and besides I really don't want to, it would be very time consuming.
I tend to agree.
Furthermore, Atheists do not merely disbelieve in God, the militant Atheists hate Him and hate religion, Christianity in particular.
Sorry but atheism to me personally has nothing to do with faith at all … it all has to do with proof. Actually they are exact opposites; I believe things because I can prove them or am willing to accept the proof of others who can provide their proof. You believe in things just because you want to and you call it faith. We can agree to disagree here.
Well, these are the most profound two words you have said to me … “militant Atheists”. I never considered this view and haven’t seen used it before, but it explains much on the slant of your rebuffs. It doesn’t excuse them because I tried time after time to explain myself to little avail. Try to consider me a benign person who has lost their way and only wants to stay lost and my humanity is intact.
You seem to think that I do not have any faith but that is not true. I have faith in myself in my abilities to reason and grow in every way. I have faith in the American people (if not the Government for the last 60 years). I have faith that Nature will endlessly take care of our world. What I do not have is just your Faith.