Game of Thrones

By on April 7, 2011 2:06:11 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

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So who has been keeping up with this?

As some of you know, the concept for the family tree in War of Magic was inspired by this series. Great series of books.

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April 21, 2012 10:55:18 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

What shows do you find to be better? 

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April 21, 2012 11:03:38 AM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Stargate Universe was decent, for example, although barely. The problem is that the overall quality of entertainment products available today is very low and it is maintained ssuch because this helps the market through a continuous renewal of offer based on the quick boredom produced by such inadequate forms of "artistic" (the term media celarly shows there is no art involved) expression.

Essentially, a consequence of the decadence of our culture.

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April 21, 2012 11:13:09 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting 137,
Essentially, a consequence of the decadence of our culture.

Yours, maybe....ours down here can't be buggered to put in the effort to be decadent....

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April 21, 2012 11:14:56 AM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Indeed, as you can see by the current brilliance of world economy.

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April 21, 2012 11:22:53 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Quoting 137,
Stargate Universe was decent...

 

Worst show ever. I agree that some shows could be better, but I think you may have ridiculous standards.

 

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April 21, 2012 3:03:54 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Quoting 137,
Battlestar Galactica and this [Game of Thrones]... Scary mindless stuff. No plot. No acting.

Quoting seanw3,
[Stargate Universe] Worst show ever.

You guys like to exaggerate a little.

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April 21, 2012 3:28:00 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Quoting seanw3,

Quoting 137, reply 52Stargate Universe was decent...

 

Worst show ever. I agree that some shows could be better, but I think you may have ridiculous standards.

 

Well, you see, not that I am enthusiastic about it, but SGU at least can be seen without having a sense of cognitive dissonance. You may consider it "the worst show ever", but I am not quite surprised, Infact, this is the way someone living in the contemporary dark age sees entertainment.

In SGU for example, there's unity of time and space ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_unities ), whereas both in the (monstruous, undreadable) book series and in the tv show A Game of Thrones, there is none. Fact is, that to sell more books, lately, one of the stratagems has been eliminating the concept of main character and spreading the role of protagonist between different (scarcely defined and often incoherent) characters instead. These are spread between continents, generally, too. Wheel of Time, and other examples of garbage literature, intended for a consumerist market, do it largely, because this improves the chance that the reader might identify with one or the other and so, get attached to the saga. So the audience has been educated (conditioned) not to expect unities in tales anymore.

It's also like a chinese menu or a macdonalds list: the more stuff inside dishes, the better.

In SGU there's an underlying mystery ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sense_of_wonder ) whereas in current tv shows there is none. These are more like japanese anime, in their repetitive reproposition of the mechanistic antagonist-difficulty-confrontation-victory (or defeat, in the case of pessimist plots), without there being any reason for the confrontation besides some bad guy/good guy stereotype.

In SGU characters actually have a personality. In aGoT, they just oscillate around their generic quality (this guy is very honest, the other is very rash, etc.). In Galactica they are a bunch of borderlines or even multiple personality disorders, and everyone does everything and its opposite.

So, in reality, no wonder that SGU has been cancelled. It has been cancelled because it isn't as bad as what the audience has been conditioned to expect, and like. In the age of Lost, beauty is ugliness, and vice-versa.

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April 21, 2012 3:30:26 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

I enjoyed both reading the Game of Thrones series of books and watching the TV series enormously. The last two books weren't as good as the first few but still enjoyable. I've been trying to find a similar series to pick up but nothing comes close so far.

I tried reading the Malazan Book of the Fallen series but didn't enjoy it much at all. Too unbelievable. The thing I really liked in Game of Thrones was how beliefs and superstition are handled - that is, it doesn't necessarily mean its real. Most fantasy books are full of superstitions that are always real and central to the plot. Game of Thrones reads much more like historical fiction than fantasy.

If anyone has any recommendations on similar books I'd be interested in hearing about them.

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April 21, 2012 4:12:12 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Quoting Das123,
If anyone has any recommendations on similar books I'd be interested in hearing about them.

I would recommend Abercrombies "First Law Trilogie". Very good story and some great characters. The closest thing to Martins "Game of thrones" that comes to my mind.  I enjoyed this trilogie very much.

 

Scary mindless stuff. No plot

Nobody has to like Game of thrones. But calling it mindless stuff without plot is either only provocation or you haven´t understand anything. Sry.

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April 22, 2012 10:05:29 AM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Quoting 137,

Quoting seanw3, reply 55
Quoting 137, reply 52Stargate Universe was decent...

 

Worst show ever. I agree that some shows could be better, but I think you may have ridiculous standards.

 

Well, you see, not that I am enthusiastic about it, but SGU at least can be seen without having a sense of cognitive dissonance. You may consider it "the worst show ever", but I am not quite surprised, Infact, this is the way someone living in the contemporary dark age sees entertainment.

In SGU for example, there's unity of time and space ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_unities ), whereas both in the (monstruous, undreadable) book series and in the tv show A Game of Thrones, there is none. Fact is, that to sell more books, lately, one of the stratagems has been eliminating the concept of main character and spreading the role of protagonist between different (scarcely defined and often incoherent) characters instead. These are spread between continents, generally, too. Wheel of Time, and other examples of garbage literature, intended for a consumerist market, do it largely, because this improves the chance that the reader might identify with one or the other and so, get attached to the saga. So the audience has been educated (conditioned) not to expect unities in tales anymore.

It's also like a chinese menu or a macdonalds list: the more stuff inside dishes, the better.

In SGU there's an underlying mystery ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sense_of_wonder ) whereas in current tv shows there is none. These are more like japanese anime, in their repetitive reproposition of the mechanistic antagonist-difficulty-confrontation-victory (or defeat, in the case of pessimist plots), without there being any reason for the confrontation besides some bad guy/good guy stereotype.

In SGU characters actually have a personality. In aGoT, they just oscillate around their generic quality (this guy is very honest, the other is very rash, etc.). In Galactica they are a bunch of borderlines or even multiple personality disorders, and everyone does everything and its opposite.

So, in reality, no wonder that SGU has been cancelled. It has been cancelled because it isn't as bad as what the audience has been conditioned to expect, and like. In the age of Lost, beauty is ugliness, and vice-versa.

 

Nah, only highlights of the SGU was the Rush character and few episodes around the end of the first/beginning of the second season. The show lacked otherwise any sense to urgency to its main backplot, you say something about underlying mystery, but in 2 seasons this was tackled rather scarcely, we knew basically nothing about what was going on... in regard to GoT, does it have not its "mysterious" backplot with all that "Winter is coming" and white walkers and stuff? Or its not worthy to be a backplot as its nothing new?

Anyway. i wonder, which shows (when clearly even SGU is kind of one-eyed king) are in your opinion good and worthy of watching?  

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August 20, 2012 8:57:40 AM from Stardock Forums Stardock Forums

Game of Thrones

 

This show one of my favorite show ever. Because i like in show story,star cast,character's,& show chemistry.

It's much deffer to all another shows. So mostly people like this show. 

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August 22, 2012 5:41:38 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting ZehDon,
Just watched the first three episodes, and I must say that this is easily the best show on the box right now.

So what station in Australia did you watch those on? 

After seeing a couple of previews on the net I've been wanting to see this show on OZ TV, but as yet I've not even seen it advertised, much less aired.

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August 22, 2012 6:07:02 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Quoting starkers,

Quoting ZehDon, reply 43Just watched the first three episodes, and I must say that this is easily the best show on the box right now.

So what station in Australia did you watch those on? 

After seeing a couple of previews on the net I've been wanting to see this show on OZ TV, but as yet I've not even seen it advertised, much less aired.

It was on Austar (Showcase Channel I think). They finished a re-run a month or so back.

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August 22, 2012 6:30:57 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting Das123,
It was on Austar (Showcase Channel I think). They finished a re-run a month or so back.

Okay, that's why I missed out... I refuse to subscribe to Austar, Foxtel and Optus TV... they show more repeats from way back than free-to-air does.  Worse still, they force you to take a basic package containing heaps of crap that if on free-to-air you'd turn off or change the channel.  For anything worth watching you have to pay extra, and by the time you take into account all the crap and repeats of repeats you're paying for, those want-to-watch shows end up being quite expensive.

Oh well, maybe it'll be released on DVD/Blu-Ray sometime and I can see it then.

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August 22, 2012 6:51:23 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

There's a Game of Thrones mod for Crusader Kings 2. I hear it's comprehensive and pretty good.

http://citadel.prophpbb.com/topic1282.html

If it's anything up to the quality of Crusader Kings 2, then free up a weekend or two.

Othello

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January 28, 2013 2:37:21 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

I can't wait for the new season. We have to wait so long for that. I've already forgot how previous season ended

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January 28, 2013 4:17:17 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Been thinking of a new series of books to get into. This just might be it since I don't have HBO.

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