Bing vs Google Round 2

By on July 29, 2009 11:35:58 PM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

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Well it looks like Yahoo and Microsoft has got together to take on Google.

http://choicevalueinnovation.com/thedeal/pressroom/Default.aspx

As I understand it, its a 10 year deal where Yahoo will use Bing for its search engine and Yahoo will get 88% for the advertising.

With Microsoft track record I wonder if its a smart move by Yahoo?

 

 

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July 29, 2009 11:38:35 PM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums
what track record is that, exactly?
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July 29, 2009 11:41:47 PM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

Quoting Primal Zed,
what track record is that, exactly?

Windows live

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July 29, 2009 11:51:30 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Windows live

what about it?

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July 30, 2009 12:01:15 AM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

Quoting vStyler,

Windows live
what about it?

Well it did't really rip into google advertising income.

It should be interesting to see how they compete against Google.

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July 30, 2009 12:16:36 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

I'm slow to change on some things.  Took me a few years to switch from Alta Vista to Google (which around 1998 or so was using a modified form of Alta Vista's engine, iirc).  I'm used to Google now.  I know the search syntax.  I know which links in the search results are paid-for ads vs real results, and I'm expert at blocking its cookies and scripts that are irrelevant for my search requirements.

I don't know Bing.

Yahoo has never been the best (read: fastest, most accurate) search engine and requires too many scripts and cookies to use safely.

Bing will have become the best search engine, returning the most relevant links, with a clean and easy-to-use (read: fewest keystrokes+mouse clicks) interface that lets me control my own data and protect my own privacy before I consider it.  It may be years before that happens, if my Alta Vista + Google experience is any indication.

 

What else might make me switch?  If Google OS becomes the privacy and data collection monster I expect it to be.

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July 30, 2009 12:22:43 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

All things aside... the name Bing! is probably the worst mistake MS made so far. It's bloody awful

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July 30, 2009 12:31:03 AM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

Quoting vStyler,
All things aside... the name Bing! is probably the worst mistake MS made so far. It's bloody awful

  "Hang on a sec, I'll just Bing it"

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July 30, 2009 12:40:11 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

I'll just Bing it

 

Exactly

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July 30, 2009 12:55:37 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

What else might make me switch? If Google OS becomes the privacy and data collection monster I expect it to be.

It will be... Google never does anything unless it has ulterior motives, and/or a hidden agenda....and data collection for advertising purposes is its game, which is why I never use anything Google. 

The closest I come to anything Google is when I click on a link here that happens to take me to YouTube... and when that bastard google analytics thing is running at every page load on *too many* sites I happen to visit.

Hence, I don't need to switch to just "Bing it"

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July 30, 2009 1:10:09 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Quoting starkers,

<snip>...that bastard google analytics thing is running <snip>

That's one of the easy scripts to block.  Unless you're using IE or Chrome.

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July 30, 2009 1:16:11 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting Aesir Rising,

Quoting starkers, reply 9
<snip>...that bastard google analytics thing is running <snip>

That's one of the easy scripts to block.  Unless you're using IE or Chrome.

Mostly use FF, so pray tell, how do you block google analytics?  Without blocking other scripts: ie, Stardock's?  I tried using AdBlockPro, but I still see it running every time I log in here/elsewhere.

 

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July 30, 2009 1:22:13 AM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

How about NoScript?

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July 30, 2009 1:57:09 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

How about NoScript?

Yup, that did the trick!  Thanks a bunch.

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July 30, 2009 2:19:54 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

I'll just Bing it



Exactly

There WAS a time when "I'll just google it" was the utterance of the dickhead and/or socially inept too....

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July 30, 2009 3:00:50 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

I hope Google wins.

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July 30, 2009 5:22:12 AM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

Quite.

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July 30, 2009 5:27:26 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

By the way I don't see why you all have an issue with Google collecting your private data. US Government does it all the time.

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July 30, 2009 5:33:54 AM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

Quoting kona0197,
By the way I don't see why you all have an issue with Google collecting your private data. US Government does it all the time.
i dont see why the fact that the us goverment does it makes it better that google does it.

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July 30, 2009 5:55:51 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

I hope Google wins.

Wonder if you'd say that if you knew just how much data they've collected on you...

... and have stashed away for a rainy day, to use as they see fit.

Orright, Google hasn't gotten so far as to prying into your toilet habits *yet*, but keep empowering them and it''ll only a matter of time before they know which hand you use to shake off the drips.

Oh, and if you use their Chrome OS with a fingerprint reconnition keyboard, they'll have you fingerprints before you know it... and any criminal/employment/medical records attached to them. so they can target you with lawyer/bail bondsmen ads; work clothes and resume writers ads; Zimmer frame and Viagra ads just a few short years from now.

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July 30, 2009 6:33:03 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

i dont see why the fact that the us goverment does it makes it better that google does it.

I was trying to point out that it's ironic that people complain about Google collecting personal info yet no one raises a fight over the Government doing it. At least not here.

Almost nothing is private anymore. Sad but true.

Wonder if you'd say that if you knew just how much data they've collected on you...

They have dirt on everyone probably. As does the Government.

 

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July 30, 2009 7:59:19 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Bing was supposed to be called Bring...as in bring me.As usual MS got it wrong and when the mistake was pointed out to them,ignored the user input.

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July 30, 2009 10:24:02 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

double-post inbound

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July 30, 2009 10:28:37 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Quoting Jafo,

I'll just Bing it



Exactly
There WAS a time when "I'll just google it" was the utterance of the dickhead and/or socially inept too....

 

I confess.  I use Google (guiltlessly) as an verb - despite Google, Inc.'s attempts to shun that trend.  In fact, I may be doing a passive-aggressive rebellion thing and specifically using the term because they don't want me to do so.  It's my little way of getting Whitey's jack-boot off of the back of my neck.

 

Quoting kona0197,

I was trying to point out that it's ironic that people complain about Google collecting personal info yet no one raises a fight over the Government doing it. At least not here.

Speak for yourself.  For myself, when my local schools kicked off the Child Safety program involving ID cards and fingerprints for my kindergartener and 3rd grader, I opted out of the fingerprinting.  Because the package was being sold to parents as a way to recover missing children.  Sounds great.  Until I started trying to remember when the last time I ever heard of a kidnapped kid being found by tracing the child's fingerprints.  I still haven't found that story.

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July 30, 2009 10:47:10 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

They have dirt on everyone probably. As does the Government.

Ah, but Google has your dirt for the express purpose of advertising and selling you shit... whereas the government... well it's THE Government... and the Government needs to keep peoples dirt to keep track of miscreants, ne'erdogooders and no-hopers who wish to usurp our way of life.  It's sort of like a public service, if you will... and they're not trying to sell you shit, not like Google does.

I mean, you never know where the next bunch of fanatical fringe dwellers will come from, or where they'll strike, so yeah, we need governments to dig up and dish dirt to keep us safe... it just pisses me off that they google most of it.

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July 30, 2009 10:59:37 AM from GalCiv II Forums GalCiv II Forums

Weird, we'll be bombarded even more by continual misleading advertisements; most of which spent on lies rather than creating true "work" for real people.

Don't you all have had enough with being interrupted constantly everywhere you simply see?

I certainly can't afford wasting my life away on mind wrecking psychotic overpricing gimmicks wherever they may popup along with propaganda.

Yep, banners, sidebars, click on this, consume and get drunk at the newest wheels.

Leeches are sucking your rational senses dry.

Problem is, we can't opt out of such harassment processes.

 

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